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  • technoboy's Avatar
    3,995 posts since Feb '04
    • Hey guys, as seen in the prev thread which I started in this forums, I am coaching my cousin for her upcoming PSLE. However, there are some questions which I myself couldn't answer! Hope you guys can help!

      Q1) Area of SQ = 70cm2, what is the area of circle?
       


      Q2) Sally bought some identical red files. Cost of each file = $1.40
      When she bought 1 more blue file at $4.60, average cost becomes $1.80
      How many files did Sally buy altogether?

  • FirePig's Avatar
    1,189 posts since Mar '08
    • Originally posted by technoboy:

      Hey guys, as seen in the prev thread which I started in this forums, I am coaching my cousin for her upcoming PSLE. However, there are some questions which I myself couldn't answer! Hope you guys can help!

      Q1) Area of SQ = 70cm2, what is the area of circle?
       


      Q2) Sally bought some identical red files. Cost of each file = $1.40
      When she bought 1 more blue file at $4.60, average cost becomes $1.80
      How many files did Sally buy altogether?


      area of two square will be 140cm2

      therefore diameter will be square root (140)

      area of circle = pi r^2 = 3.14 * root (140)/2 * root (140)/2 = 3.14 * 35 = 109.96cm2

      Q2) Let the number of red files she bought be x

      1.40x + 4.60 = 1.8 (x+1)
      1.4x + 4.60 = 1.8x + 1.8
      0.4x = 2.8
      x=7

      She bought 7+1 = 8 files altogether. 

  • skythewood's Avatar
    4,297 posts since Jul '07
    • you see the square is made of 2 triangle?

      now, use four of these triangle to make another square.

      find diameter, find radius, find answer

  • technoboy's Avatar
    3,995 posts since Feb '04
    • Sorry, I still don't quite get the first question. Where should I place the other sq which I draw myself?

      Getting real rusty...

  • skythewood's Avatar
    4,297 posts since Jul '07
    • Originally posted by technoboy:

      Sorry, I still don't quite get the first question. Where should I place the other sq which I draw myself?

      Getting real rusty...

      break the square into 2 triangles....

      break 2nd square into 2 triangles

      combine this 4 triangles... to form a square....

      the square should have the diagonal of the original as it's side instead.

  • FirePig's Avatar
    1,189 posts since Mar '08
    • formula of area of any square = (diagonal^2)/2

      in this question, diagonal of square = diameter of circle.

  • skythewood's Avatar
    4,297 posts since Jul '07
    • Originally posted by FirePig:

      formula of area of any square = (diagonal^2)/2

      in this question, diagonal of square = diameter of circle.

      didn't know that. kids learn this in primary school now?

      gues i'm outdated le

  • Master Loh's Avatar
    11 posts since Jul '08
    • Area of SQ = 70cm2 as given

      i.e. (AB x AB) or (BC x BC) = 70cm2

       

      Pythegoras Theorem,

      AC x AC = (AB x AB) + (BC x BC)

                  

       

       

       

       

  • Master Loh's Avatar
    11 posts since Jul '08
    • Area of SQ = 70cm2 as given

      i.e. (AB x AB) or (BC x BC) = 70cm2

       

      Pythegoras Theorem,

      AC x AC = (AB x AB) + (BC x BC)

                  = 70 + 70

                  = 140

      therefore AC = square root of 140 which is also the radius of circle

       

      Area of circle = (22/7) x radius x radius

                         = 22/7 x AC x AC

                         = 22/7 x 140/4

                         = 110cm2

       

      Got it? I will reply to the 2nd Q soon.

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    eagle's Avatar
    18,012 posts since Aug '01
    • Originally posted by skythewood:

      didn't know that. kids learn this in primary school now?

      gues i'm outdated le

      actually hor, I learned about pygathoras theorem in pri sch

  • maurizio13's Avatar
    12,380 posts since Sep '06
    • Originally posted by eagle:

      actually hor, I learned about pygathoras theorem in pri sch


      Core syllabus or self study?

       

       

  • technoboy's Avatar
    3,995 posts since Feb '04
    • Guys I have a question, since all of you here gave the answer which requires square root, how are they suppose to calculate when they do not have the calculator?

      Can they just leave it in the sq rt form?

  • baiyun's Avatar
    26 posts since Sep '08
  • annoy-you-must's Avatar
    447 posts since Sep '07
    • Wtf? Why pri sch question now so freaking difficult one? I cannot solve it using pri sch math leh!

      I'm not sure if we should solve the first question using pygathoras theorem. I learnt it only in sec 2.

      Pri sch kids do learn algebra...but have they learnt changing the subject of algebric equation? If not, then no point using algebra because it will involve changing subject.

      Baiyun's method will work for a pri school kid...it's shameful that I did not think of his method, lol.

      but what about the second question?

      Edited by annoy-you-must 28 Sep `08, 5:34PM
  • skythewood's Avatar
    4,297 posts since Jul '07
    • the first question don't need pythygoras nia...

      use this, which i also didn't learn in primary school

      formula of area of any square = (diagonal^2)/2

      in this question, diagonal of square = diameter of circle.

  • skythewood's Avatar
    4,297 posts since Jul '07
  • technoboy's Avatar
    3,995 posts since Feb '04
    • Hey guys, 2 more questions for you. Hope someone can help me with it!

      Q1) There are 2 identical flights of stairs. The first flight, A walked some and ran 4 steps. he took 98 secs. The second flight, A walked some and ran 9 steps. He took 78 secs. How long does he need to walk both flights?

      My answer: (please tell me if it's correct as I'm not too sure)

      Running 5 steps instead of walking = 20 secs faster
      Running 1 step instead of walking = 5 secs faster

      Thus, walk the whole flight = 98 + (4*4) = 114sec (1 flight of stairs)

      Total timing to walk both flights = 114 * 2 = 228 secs

       

      Q2) A piece of rectangular paper is folded as below. Find X and Y.

  • shaunlaw's Avatar
    694 posts since Sep '02
    • Originally posted by technoboy:

      Hey guys, 2 more questions for you. Hope someone can help me with it!

      Q1) There are 2 identical flights of stairs. The first flight, A walked some and ran 4 steps. he took 98 secs. The second flight, A walked some and ran 9 steps. He took 78 secs. How long does he need to walk both flights?

      My answer: (please tell me if it's correct as I'm not too sure)

      Running 5 steps instead of walking = 20 secs faster
      Running 1 step instead of walking = 5 secs faster

      Thus, walk the whole flight = 98 + (4*4) = 114sec (1 flight of stairs)

      Total timing to walk both flights = 114 * 2 = 228 secs

       

      Q2) A piece of rectangular paper is folded as below. Find X and Y.

      If I am not wrong, x is 90 degrees. Its the edge of the rectangle and therefore should be 90 degrees. As for y, I am still working it out.

  • tr@nsp0rt_F3V3R's Avatar
    99 posts since Jul '08
  • skythewood's Avatar
    4,297 posts since Jul '07
    • corresponding angle, find the top right corner.

      angle sum of triangle, find A.

      angles on a straight line, line y.

  • tr@nsp0rt_F3V3R's Avatar
    99 posts since Jul '08
    • actually a quicker methood. ext. angle of a triangle, y = 90 + 33 <sup>o</sup>

      Edited by tr@nsp0rt_F3V3R 03 Oct `08, 10:12PM
  • skythewood's Avatar
    4,297 posts since Jul '07
    • Originally posted by tr@nsp0rt_F3V3R:

      actually a quicker methood. ext. angle of a triangle, y = 90 + 33 <sup>o</sup>

      yes, but i don't like to teach my student ext. angle of triangle.

      if they need me to teach them, they probably is having trouble le, so i see no point teaching them this step, which is just a combination of two steps. if they can handle the other 4 types of angle relation, is enough le.

  • technoboy's Avatar
    3,995 posts since Feb '04
    • Ok, last 3 questions guys before she goes for battle tomorrow!

      These problems really give me an headache!

      1) A cashier had 151 pieces of $50 notes and $10 notes. She took out 3/4 of the $50 notes and put in nine $10 notes. As a result, the ratio of the $50 to $10 becomes 3:8. What is the total value of the $10 notes initially?

      2) The length of a bridge is 1500m. A train takes 150secs to travel on the bridge. The whole train was completely on the bridge for 100secs. Find (a) the average speed of the train and (b) the length of the train

      3) P overlaps Q & R. Q is on R. Ratio of area of P, Q, R is 1:2:3. 40% of Q is shaded.Find the % of the figure unshaded.

       

  • skythewood's Avatar
    4,297 posts since Jul '07
    • Originally posted by technoboy:

       

      1) A cashier had 151 pieces of $50 notes and $10 notes. She took out 3/4 of the $50 notes and put in nine $10 notes. As a result, the ratio of the $50 to $10 becomes 3:8. What is the total value of the $10 notes initially?

      presently,

      $50 ===>   X X X
      $10 ===>   X X X X X X X X

      at the beginning, before taking away 3/4 of $50

      $50 ===> X X X X X X X X X X X X 
      $10 ===> X X X X X X X X
      number of notes is 151 + 9 = 160  (include the 9 $10)

      simplify diagram to

      $50 ===> X X X
      $10 ===> X X

      one X is equal to 160/5 = 32 notes

      hence, you can solve the thing

       

       

  • skythewood's Avatar
    4,297 posts since Jul '07
    • Originally posted by technoboy:

       

      2) The length of a bridge is 1500m. A train takes 150secs to travel on the bridge. The whole train was completely on the bridge for 100secs. Find (a) the average speed of the train and (b) the length of the train

      a) speed = distance divide by time
                      = 1500 / 150
                      =  10m/s

      b) the 100 seconds is the time between the end of the train get on the bridge, and the front of the train reach the end of the train.

      distance travelled  = speed x time
                                      = 10 x 100
                                      - 1000m

      hence, the train is = 1500 - 1000
                                     = 500m

       

         bridge starts   |< ------------------1500------------------------------------>| bridge ends
                                                               
                                  | train starts|<------------distance travelled---------->|

                                                                                                 | train ends |

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