They said they made a big sacrifice not to work in the private sector leh. But in reality, our ministers are taking directorship roles in private companies.

Let's take a look:

If initially we paid $100 for electircity tariff.

22% increase = $122

Now, 25% decrease = $91.50

We are better off by 8.5%.

What say you? I think the decrease is not enough, never enough haha...

1) PM's pay will be 5.3 Million and peasant's pay will stay stagnant or reduced to remain competitive.

2) 3/4 of the population will be PRs and 1/4 Singaporeans. Singapore's population would hit 6.5 Million to boost the economy.

3) Lee Hong Yi steps into politics.

4) 5 room HDB flats would hit $750K per unit on average. The young can no longer afford their own home. Or they will either slog out and use 30-50% of their monthly income to pay for their loans.

5) Our labour force will switch more to servicing instead of manufacturing. Become more like a tourist attraction country. We have 2 IRs and lots of retail shops for tourists, PRs and Singaporeans alike to spend.

6) Hydroelectric cars are introduced. More cars on the road. ERP per entry hits $5-$7. Road tax and COE all increase.

7) GST increased to 10-15%.

8) Corporate and personal income taxes go down.

9) Birth rates hit to historical lowest.

10) Full accountability of investments from GIC and Temasek made known to public. There will be internal audit of the finances of the country. (hopfully i get to see this)

All these are just my guesstimates and are based on assumptions. If I can predict the future, would be quite cool. lol! I would be "head-hunted" by the government.

Originally posted by the Bear:

ever since TKL turned up in soc.culture.singapore and was soundly hammered by the denizens there for his dubious posts and his nonsense, i could never bring myself to trust him...

in fact, i think he's just an opportunist...

No one can lead without opportunity. PAP is very good a it. For now they are just being complacent.

stress man! lol

have other stuffs also lah

kinda busy these days

Originally posted by seyKai:

what to be afraid of being track down and I do not understand your "you know who". what got it to do here

It just a president with no actual power, the time is just not ripe yet to to optimistic. do you expect a man is capable of doing that now if it not a "make up"  

I had said before - changes will only comes after LKY die, PAP will split to form opposition party or parties and opposition will be in power then, then the struggling of power will start between these parties      

I see...you think further than me. Alright then.

Originally posted by seyKai:

Its your choice so please dont state "WE", unless you belong to a group

so far OTC was unable to do what is was suppose to do, so what makes you think he is that capable?

Gahmen just cant leave that seat empty, the whole idea was just a "make up"    

Why are you so sensitive of "we"? Afraid of being tracked down by "you know who"?

OTC cant doesnt mean TKL cant also. Where is this sense of justice in Singaporeans? Are we cowards? What are we afraid of?

That presidential seat is just a "make up" or not. I hope this time it's different, that seat must be utilized by someone who knows how to.

By the way, "we" belong to the same group of eligible voters. Who you vote for is your choice. If you are pressured in voting someone or a party you dont like, something is very wrong here.

Originally posted by seyKai:

Most people will support him for a cause, without elaborting that cause so what to support?

No 1 wants to be the president so the gahmen just push him to be the next.

Thats how I see it   

So you think that there is a conspiracy? It's highly unlikely in my opinion.

1) Helping the mis-sold investors when MAS is just observing how HK is doing.

2) 100,000 signatures trying to get some citizens involve/aware about politics in Singapore to gather support for him.

3) Local media published a biased comment from Mr Chua that directly attacks Mr Tan's character. How can they even allow that?

Are you sure nobody wants to be president? They were either not eligible by the government's standards or not approved by the government community which is appointed by the PAP.

If you are interested, there are some info for you to read. http://wayangparty.com/2008/11/28/remembering-the-last-two-presidential-casualties-ong-teng-cheong-and-andrew-kwan/

Cheers!

Originally posted by seyKai:

We? who are "we"?

TKL knows the function of a president but he did not elaborate and just asking for support - so what do you think?

 

"We" are the eligible voters.

He is trying to test water, politics in Singapore is not like any other countries. At least he is willing to step up for the voices of the common people. What more do you want to ask for?

alright man! sex box 2!!

Originally posted by seyKai:

Do I need to recommend some1?

 

If you have pls do. We dont mind more choices.

his job is forever iron rice bowl if 66.6% of people still wants him, where got recession 1? haha

Originally posted by seyKai:

provided you are employable till you drop dead

My mind is not occupied with getting employed. That is what the government wants everyone to think in school. I dont like to be digits.

My mind is more occupied with creating jobs. If you are not me, you wont understand.

Originally posted by seyKai:

AndrewpkYap is the smartest here, all others are idiots and stupid

If you dont have a good alternative suggestion, dont try to put somebody down. Thanks!

Originally posted by seyKai:

I dun see the ingredient in him to be the president, just another pap crony

If that is the case, who do you suggest then?

im gonna work till i drop dead beacuse i love my work. Investing, helping others etc.

Everyone should look for things that they like/want to do, be it retire or not. Never retire to wait for death.

Originally posted by xtreyier:

Before you start to choose the president, do consider carefully what TKL has done.

 

1. Before even a commission of inquiry into the supposedly 'mis-selling' had investigate and came out with any result, he led people into a demostration.

 

2. He accused bank and staff of 'mis-selling', even without any proof, or misled others into  'presuming' that such accusations were true, thereby pre-judging and denying the bank and its staff, whom are citizens too, of a fair trial.

 

3. Singapore is a lawful society, and our biz growth is dependent on the honouring of a signed contract by individuals.

 

To have repudiate such signed agreements, based on emotions, allegations, and prejudical notions is to render the biz system asunder, that which the larger society us is dependent on.

 

It would mean nothing is firm or secure - what we sign on the dotted line can be revoked anytime. This is what he meant when he took to the streets.

 

4. He claims to represent the 500 or so who had signed on the dotted line, and made accusations. But he certainly did not represent the majority, clients, customers, staff,  shareholders, and even society. Who represented these people, whom are our citizens too?

 

5. He allowed emotions to overcome him, on the plight of the elderly who claim they had no knowledge of the contract, but had he ever considered that for someone who had amass a wealth of more than $25,000 is not a village idiot, but most certainly a prudent and savvy individual careful with money?

 

Point is, he denied citizens fair trial, did not allow investigations, allowed emotions to take charge instead of rationality, continually led protests despite govt's efforts to look into the case,etc, etc...

 

Worse still, is speaking in a demostration a qualification to become Singapore's President? If so, then i am sure many unemployed will be registering to speak in Hong Lim soon.

 

Is this whom you want to be a president and the gatekeeper of our treasury?

 

Personally, I don't care much who gets voted, because i know for sure i will still have to work to earn a living, pay taxes and don't live in a Paradise. Be him a scholar or a roadsweeper. ( although i would be wary of the scholar more - as it is said - the non scholar will only rob a frieghthold, but the scholar will rob the entire railway! -kidding lah! Joke only, dont get upset please!)

If Mr Tan where to type like this, he would be sued all over!

The main problem is if there were no complaints the financial institutions would think that nothing is wrong. Do you think that old uncles and aunties have a huge risk appetite? A 100% potential loss of capital is very high risk! What are the returns? Hello! 5%! Not enough to even offset this year's 6-7% inflation rate.

If anyone would have known better, the uncles and aunties would not even invest in those "minibonds". Look at the probability of failure, out of 150, if 12 or 15 were to fail, all capital would be wiped out! You are better off gambling on "big" or "small" in the casino in which your odds are 50-50.

How easy is it for anyone to accumulate $25,000? Save $100 every month for 21 years.

If need money, can just withdraw from ATM, why need to close the whole account or have a joint account? If Mdm Huang has dementia how is she able to consider suing the bank? Must be her adopted daughter doing it on her behalf right?

Originally posted by 4sg:

To me whether it is Tom, Dick or Harry as President, does not affect me. But it is refreshing to see Singaporean coming out of the grassroot for public service.

Good for long-term nation building, to see people volunteering rather than from govt 'approved' or 'sanction' avenue.     

Yes yes! It's heartening to see fellow Singaporeans take part in nation building in chosing their leaders and voice out signing petitions. Some changes that I notice.

Originally posted by seyKai:

so what do you think?

is he going to be a running dog, underdog, petdog, muppet dog, a good dog or just another toothless barking dog that dont bite?

seems that Nathan will resign and take all the rap for not keeping an eye on the account

is he going to be a outcaste like Ong Teng Cheong or just changing the soup without changing the ingredients?

Is'nt it a very clear plan? - getting ready for election and 1 standing out to speak for the people?

I just hope for the best or just another hopless hope?

Anything we do, we must have a plan, if not you are seeking doom.

The best plan is always one that you have not thought about while you carry out your previous plan. The best idea/creativity is usually one that just pop out of nowhere.

Mr Tan's initial plan was to help those mis-sold investors. Now there are many people who are asking him to be President and why not? If he had gathered enough support he will succeed.

Obama has a plan to become president. PAP has a plan to pick out their own candidate to stand for elections too! Whether you support him or not is your choice.

Originally posted by 4sg:

There is this danger where people may support him 'online' but comes actual election, diff scenerio emerges. 

Then those people need to look at themselves in the mirror again. I believe they are the minority, such frail characters they have, no guts.

If I were the one standing for elections, I'd rather not have their support at all.

Support Mr Tan Kin Lian for President here:

Sign the online petition or get 20 signatures.

http://tankinlian.blogspot.com/2008/11/petition-form-for-elected-presidency.html

Originally posted by Rednano:

got 90% discount u still kb...

Most are e-learning stuffs. Would you pay a few dollars to read some article when you can find them online for free?

If I think that it's good, would gladly pay for it. They send me reminder letters 2 times already, that I have unused credits of $350. They make it sound like it's free, but it's not. Maybe my english language sucks, I never read properly.

Anyone signed up for any e-PREP courses? I need feedbacks.